florida player can't play for money
I watched the ads on TV for WPT where you can win prizes and entry in real tournaments and at no time do they even suggest some states do not quality for cash games; so even if you sign up for VIP membership all you can play is free games!
When you go on line to cancel your membership there is a $37 convince fee that if you don't pay you can not cancel your member. which in so many ways is deceptive
holdem tournaments
****(Watch videos)**** clupwpt is a [censored]ing scam. Im 99% positive it is an algorithm that decides who wins based off a few key points. First is making the right betting/folding decisions, seat positioning, chip count, and last but definitely not least how many players are "sitting out" at the table. Have you ever had a suited A10, J9 or KQ with the flop giving you 2/3 cards you need for your flush but you cant get the last or even land a pair with the turn and river? Im willing to bet (pun intended) that its because you didnt make the "correct" betting decision. Often in my case betting too much in wishful thinking that logically it makes sense that I would land either the flush or at the very least a damn pair. The game is designed to reward whoever makes the most correct decisions thru the river. Another thing ive noticed is sometimes it lags out during the persons bet seated in front of me. it wont be very long just long enough for me to refresh the site and log back in to take my seat but when i get back in the game its only showing me one of my cards and its a completely different card then i had when i lagged out of the game, on top of that the hand is on the turn now which if youve played any poker on wpt you know damn right well that each player takes a long while to make their decision on folding or calling/raising. My point being there is no way in hell that ive missed the hand i was lagged out on and practically the whole next hand in the time it took me to refresh and sign in which i have my account info saved so that saves me another 30 seconds. And why the hell does it only show me one of my cards?!? Something shady real shady is going on there and i think it has something to do with the players that are sitting out and what cards the players that are actually playing cannot see due to the sitting out players hands that immediately fold. Also ive only ever gotten pocket aces when noones playing at the table its me vs 4 ppl sitting out.
I agree with your post somethings stinks really bad on that site! Who regulates that site? They get to operate completely unchecked?
player bots on online poker
You have a serious bot problem. I am on tables, where some players will fold or drop out of of hands and I mean every one. Then play other hands, whether down huge or going allin with, like a J 3 offsuit, pre flop, and every time, not just sometimes, all the time, end up with a full house, or whatever hand magically wins. Other hands may have QQ or AA and like a 90% winner and they always lose to these players, as long as these bots stay in the turn and river! I might as well read a book or play at a casino. Playing for an hour against an obvious bot, is not my idea of playing poker. I guess you don't police your online games. If you don't know poker, you might think...wow what luck, it's the same group of players. I have won a few 500 player free rolls, without these bots, but I cannot beat a robot. It's a waste of time. It's not even subtle. Trump poker style poker, just cheat, who cares as long as you win! I was trying to hone my game, I guess not!
Thanks,
Roger P.
PS. You will lose a lot more players as they notice these trends. Must be fun to know you win with a 2 8 off suit every time, against super strong post flop hands..LOL
yup same chit all the time i have 90 plus equity and these donks win for example i am in the top 10 in a 10004 tourney i 3 bet this donk with a/q he goes allin with q/10 and q 10 x on flop of course the same [censored] 3 bets me l have a/k and go allin he calls with k/9 off? how and you know the rest the brd is k 9 x every fin time it is so obvious the biggest scam i have encountered in 30 plus years of poker bob morrow pork12 1000$ turney
I agree totally. They sit out until they get close to the 20 minute rule. One bot plays and the others
sit out and they alternate. They win most times on an impossible river card. Can someone recommend
a better site?
GuyC.
Rigged and shady
I was playing a hand with two other people. I had pocket Qs and the flop brought up an Ace with two low cards. One guy was a very aggressive better and had been betting high pair on the flop every time, so when he didn't bet, I figured he didn't have the Ace. Another Ace shows up and he didn't bet again, so I bet the $10 minimum bet. One guy folds and the aggressive better called and a third Ace came up on the river so in my mind, my Full House is a shoe in. I bet enough to drive him out, but the guy is not responding. The time limit ends and, here's the real shady, rigged evidence, instead of me collecting the pot, the computer blinks and there is two more guys at the table and one guy is betting all in with 200 and something dollars but I'm confused about where these other guys came from. I don't want to fold because I haven't collected my pot yet, so I call and he turns over an Ace and wins with four aces! How does someone come into a hand that is already in play and he wasn't even at the table. Is that a rigged system, or what!
It is rigged, today in 2 hands had a pair of Aces and a pair of Jacks bets all in. No more jacks or aces flop but of course 4 spades flop and get beat with a flush. Have not had a flush show all morning. Next pair of Aces another person beta all in and one other person joins that bet. I call and the other person that joined had a J-8 and betted all in. Of course, the flop gives him a straight. This does not happen twice in 15 minutes' time... This river flop has been my enemy in this game and it is time to retire from the crap...
last hand on clubwpt i get aces in the big blind don't want to give a free flop so i pot it up 4 out of five players snap call flop comes A64 rainbow checked to me i pot it i get reraised all in all four players call the hands k2,j2,92,82 i get run out by running 53 all 4 players hit the running str8 split my money done with poker for life
never in my life have i seen such rigged complete bs run out after run out with garbage hands 1 outers come at a break neck pace this site has made me hate the game of poker flop a str8 flush lose runner runner bigger str8 flush flop 4 of a kind lose runner runner bigger 4 of a kind flop the ace high flush lose runner runner full house flop a nut str8 lose runner runner full house or flush constantly i now hate poker cause of this site great job if your plan was to make the wpt look like crooks you did it i hope you rot in hell
second try on this site and just as brutal last 2 hands played i am heads up with chip lead in 1000 tp lose to aa no biggie next hand i have A/Q spds vs A/J off board is J x x two spds runout is A x no spd pretty big hands and brd for heads up but i seem to feel it coming tho occasionaly i suck out but i try to enter with the best hand or draw and sooner of later enough bs runouts to get me and also my play changes and i basically give up
sorry didnt see first post go up
i have tried it for the second time i have no idea why and this is my latest hand playing headsup i have a good chip lead i lose to aa next hand i have A/Q spds i push and opp calls with A/J off flop J x x two spds imagine that runout is A x no spd what a joke a brd i can never get away from the winners are determined by the seat i guess and most of the time you dont want to have the best hand
here we go very next day 2500 tps tourney i have 10/j brd 8 j j rainbow 3 players bet call call turn q river q the player has q/9 only way to win is q q and behold there it is just 1 more example of wpt every day every tourament it happens to me by the way it cost me 1004 plus for 1 month so who is the fool
100$ plus
its rigged, they chose who wins. don't waste your time or money. i got beat with a straight flush, 4 times with 4 of a kind. and more than can count full houses. rigged, rigged...
every time i play on this site i cant win bs. theses people cant even run a site and they let one person win all the time. total b s. this site is rigged. unreal
same old bs on this sorry site. i lost over a 120.000 chip in one day with no wins. sad they run a site this way. unreal
Maybe someone should report WPT to the ATF to check them out.
I am member as 6 year
but this 2017 is a disaster, i lost 10, 000 cheps
because the connection gos off on
you bet once ?the don"t let you finish your hand
the sistem got rigged.Rigged..Rigged
It is rigged. I think the staff at WPT have the ability to jump in games/hands. I've seen what this first guy as saying. I've seen it happen. Suddenly there is a player there that wasn't ever there and they win. I think it is all rigged, is why I stopped wasting 20$ a month to be a member.
System Blocking Access to Tables
For the past several weeks, have had games dropping my access to tables to which I was entered and seated. In one case, ended up losing access to the FIAT Semi Final game New Year's evening. The technicians do not provide a solution which works ... CHAT persons apparently are not technically qualified ... simply asking me to log out/in, by which time the "DETAILS" list reports I've been dropped for not playing; when I was actually registered and seated to start.
Latest suggestion was to clean my PC, which I complied and performed that function ... their end still did not display the tables to which I was registered/seated. (My NORTON stated that the "page is safe." So there appears to be no hacking going on, at least on my side of the communications.)
If anyone else has experienced this failure to perform, and resolved the problem, please let me know how at [protected]@yahoo.com.
Dog with congenital issues
I purchased a Great Pyrenees puppy from this breeder in 2012--puppy born on March 5, 2012. The breeder has a contract guaranteeing that the puppy is free from hereditary defects. My puppy always had digestive issues, which I made the breeders aware of early; however, the true disease did not manifest until the puppy was about 1 1/2 years old--he had juvenile renal dysplasia. Basically, his kidneys did not grow or function well as the rest of this majestic dog grew. I was able to keep him alive until October 29, 2014. Once the diagnosis was made, I let the breeder know because this is a congenital issue. The breeder got very defensive and told me it could be other things like Lyme Disease. (I had already spent hundreds of dollars ruling out other things, including Lyme Disease.) She was obviously not very knowledgeable about the breed because when my veterinarian and I did more research, the Great Pyrenees is susceptible to this congenital defect. From viewing the breeder's website, she has done nothing to remedy other buyers from going through this agony. I spent thousands caring for this dog, as well as having him trained to be a therapy dog prior to my knowledge that revealed this terminal condition. I am only fortunate that Toby was in my home where he received the best care until his death. Perhaps the breeder did not know her dogs carried this defect but she does know now! Do NOT support this breeder; she is only out to make a buck and cares very little about the breed and the buyers. Also, if you really want to own a Great Pyrenees and insist on going through a breeder, have the dog guaranteed against juvenile renal dysplasia..it is horrific to experience, both for the dog and the owner.
My initial email to this breeder regarding his condition was respectful but shows the emotional toll on me. Thousands had been spent to rule out other conditions...beginning as a puppy which she acknowledges in her email because she knew I had x-rays taken when he was very young. This is my initial email to the breeder who showed no compassion or concern for either me or my dog:
Hello Gloria and Brian,
I've been waiting a few weeks to write this correspondence because I've been experiencing many highs and lows--especially anger, and I didn't want to write when I was really angry.
Let me explain:
After all of Toby's training, I decided to get him a thorough exam (with blood work) before l began taking him around to nursing homes in the area. He didn't seem to be feeling well. Toby has juvenile renal dysplasia--basically chronic renal failure. This is a congenital condition, meaning he was born with it and one of his parents carries the gene. Dogs normally don't start showing symptoms until around 15 months old (for Toby it was around 2 years old). By this time, it is too late, and an animal with juvenile renal dysplasia who begins showing these symptoms has already lost 75% kidney function. If you research this on the internet, you will see that Great Pyrenees is one of the breeds susceptible to this congenital issue. The only other remote possibility, as far as diagnoses go is that he has an autoimmune disorder, which is another congenital problem often seen with overbred dogs. I told Dr Austin (his veterinarian) that Toby was almost 1/2 the size of his littermates and he commented that this alone is often a sign of a congenital problem.
After hundreds of dollars in medical bills, he is seeing a very good veterinarian who is a great scientist. He moved to WV from CA and both he and his wife are veterinarians. Toby is receiving great care from them. He underwent an ultrasound and it distinctly shows small kidneys that just didn't grow.The only way to know with certainty is to biopsy his kidneys, which I won't because it won't help Toby's treatment; however, a responsible breeder would, knowing that this condition has appeared in a lineage. Instead, Toby gets lots of love from me, along with a homecooked diet. Fortunately, he got to come to a good home where he gets this special treatment. Lifespan is difficult to say. Dr. Austin said it could be from 3 months to a couple years. We are closely monitoring his BUN and creatine levels but have been unsuccessful so far at controlling them. We keep making minor changes to his diet and supplements to see if this will help.
Being the breeder, you needed to know this information. Here is a dog that has had thousands of dollars in training and medical care that will probably not see his destiny fulfilled. He is a beautiful creature that has become a local celebrity and he will be taken far too soon. I should not have to mention the emotional toll it is having on me. I had almost 13 years with Abby and 2 years for Toby? Yet, his sister, Libby, who is a Pyr mix who isn't from a breeder, is as healthy as can be. Doesn't seem fair, does it?
Please do the right thing, whatever that is for a breeder.
The tone in my email is appropriate for what I was experiencing emotionally over the entire two 1/2 years Toby was alive and with me and it was in no way disrespectful--I only contacted her because as a breeder she needed to know so she would have her dogs tested...and as far as testing goes, I had already spent thousands, so of course Lyme Disease and all other conditions had been ruled out; there was no compassion or concern for me or my dog. As in her response, there were radiographs taken of Toby as a small puppy because I have had Great Pyrenees for over 20 years and I knew something was not quite right--this disease did not manifest until later so it did not show up when he was a puppy. This was my initial email to her, verbatim:
Hello Gloria and Brian,
I've been waiting a few weeks to write this correspondence because I've been experiencing many highs and lows--especially anger, and I didn't want to write when I was really angry.
Let me explain:
After all of Toby's training, I decided to get him a thorough exam (with blood work) before l began taking him around to nursing homes in the area. He didn't seem to be feeling well. Toby has juvenile renal dysplasia--basically chronic renal failure. This is a congenital condition, meaning he was born with it and one of his parents carries the gene. Dogs normally don't start showing symptoms until around 15 months old (for Toby it was around 2 years old). By this time, it is too late, and an animal with juvenile renal dysplasia who begins showing these symptoms has already lost 75% kidney function. If you research this on the internet, you will see that Great Pyrenees is one of the breeds susceptible to this congenital issue. The only other remote possibility, as far as diagnoses go is that he has an autoimmune disorder, which is another congenital problem often seen with overbred dogs. I told Dr Austin (his veterinarian) that Toby was almost 1/2 the size of his littermates and he commented that this alone is often a sign of a congenital problem.
After hundreds of dollars in medical bills, he is seeing a very good veterinarian who is a great scientist. He moved to WV from CA and both he and his wife are veterinarians. Toby is receiving great care from them. He underwent an ultrasound and it distinctly shows small kidneys that just didn't grow.The only way to know with certainty is to biopsy his kidneys, which I won't because it won't help Toby's treatment; however, a responsible breeder would, knowing that this condition has appeared in a lineage. Instead, Toby gets lots of love from me, along with a homecooked diet. Fortunately, he got to come to a good home where he gets this special treatment. Lifespan is difficult to say. Dr. Austin said it could be from 3 months to a couple years. We are closely monitoring his BUN and creatine levels but have been unsuccessful so far at controlling them. We keep making minor changes to his diet and supplements to see if this will help.
Being the breeder, you needed to know this information. Here is a dog that has had thousands of dollars in training and medical care that will probably not see his destiny fulfilled. He is a beautiful creature that has become a local celebrity and he will be taken far too soon. I should not have to mention the emotional toll it is having on me. I had almost 13 years with Abby and 2 years for Toby? Yet, his sister, Libby, who is a Pyr mix who isn't from a breeder, is as healthy as can be. Doesn't seem fair, does it?
Please do the right thing, whatever that is for a breeder.
Correction: There was a mention of replacement of my dog--but she wanted me to surrender my sick dog back to her that has been part of my family for two years, which she knew I wouldn't do because he was part of my family and I knew he would not receive quality care from her. Her dogs are not family but are all kept in kennels when I visited. She only kept her loved German Shepherds in her house.
Per comment from the actual breeder listed on November 9th above, this is the email she sent me, noting that there is no mention of a replacement, which according to other breeders I have talked with should have been free. This is her response when I initially informed her of Toby's condition:
I am sorry to hear about Toby. I am quite taken aback by the tone in your email. Do you think I intentionally sold you a puppy knowing that it might have juvenile renal disease? No, I did not! I do not know of any Great Pyrenees breeders that tests their breeding stock for Renal Dysplasia. You were provided information on the testing we perform on our breeding stock before you purchased Toby. You have been to our home and witnessed first hand the environment and conditions our dogs are reared in. If I am not mistaken, you approved of our program. I sent you weekly updates and didn't hide the fact that Toby wasn't as large as his littermates. BTW he wasn't half the size of his sisters and by the time he left he was very close to their size. I asked the breeders I purchased puppies from if there were any known problems with their lines and the response I got time after time was "no".
I recall you had radiographs taken of Toby in June 2012, you told me those came back good. Did you show those radiographs to your new vet?
Now that this has been brought to my attention, I will not use Toby's parents in our breeding program until more testing has been run. If you want to return Toby, I will take him back and give you a puppy out of different lines.
I have done some research on this condition and found this condition "can be inherited OR acquired" (ie Mary H. Whiteley, PhD, DOGenes Inc.). Here are a few things that come to mind that Toby could have come in contact with which also causes kidney failure-lymes, leptospirosis and antifreeze. I have also found that the only way to confirm and definitively diagnose renal dysplasia is to take tissue biopsies from both of the dog’s kidneys and submit them to a veterinary pathology laboratory (which you already know).
If you are looking for someone to blame, by all means blame me. It was something I was unaware of and will now address. It can happen in any breeding program!
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club WPT rips you off ! they take your membership money and let you play for 14 days then tell ya, you can't play ! then they want give you your money back bc your state doesn't allow gambling ! FREAUD FREAUD FREAUD !
I HOPE THIS SAVES A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM LOSING THEIR MONEY !
thanks w. willis
Endless problems, no solutions. Requests for help are ignored. Only competence is in billing for the little play that I do get. I cannot find information on tournaments. I'd love site like this that actually works.
08-01-2012 was charge 3 times on wpt chips 18.20 x 3 for same item7
This complaint is NOT true. I purchased a puppy from this breeder 5 years ago and have nothing but great things to say about them! I checked with several breeders (all with 20+ years experience) in regards to testing for renal dysplasia...none of them test for it. Please don't let one untrue complaint sway your decision, contact the breeder and find out for yourself. They are true animal lovers and provide the best for their furry family! As for the statement "she is only out to make a buck", this breeder is retired and receives a monthly retirement check, she breeds because she loves the breed.
While I am very sorry for your loss, I do not feel this is the correct way to go about venting your displeasure with the breeder.
Yes, the breeder has a contract stating the puppy is free from hereditary defects to the best of her knowledge. The breeder never received a written Veterinarian Certificate of this existing condition. Nowhere in your complaint did you mention that you were offered a replacement puppy out of completely different lines! Even with all the health testing in the world, genetic issues occur. While this breeder strives to produce puppies with good health and longevity, genetics are unpredictable. This is no way to guarantee or predict the genetic behavior of any animal.
According to Mary H. Whiteley, Ph.D. of DOGenes Inc. “the mode of inheritance of JRD has been widely debated, as this disease can present itself with a wide range of symptoms and pathological findings. Definitive diagnosis of JRD is done by a wedge biopsy which reveals dysplastic lesions, including abnormal ducts, and glomeruli”. No definitive diagnosis is made without a kidney biopsy.
According to CHIC (canine health information center) and the GPCA (Great Pyrenees Club of American) the testing for Renal Dysplasia isn’t mentioned as a health concern for the Great Pyrenees Breed.
won a prize that i didnt get, 2,300 dollar watch.
I won a Tag Heuer watch, worth $2, 300. It was the prize for a first place tournament win on February 8th of this year 2014. I have not received it yet. I chatted with them on their web site, where they beat around the bush on everything I asked. They won't give you a straight answer.
On March 5th, they told me I would receive the watch within 30 days. April 1st was 30 days. So I called to ask why I didn't receive it yet. They said it was because I had a
P O Box. I told them, that;s my address, and that's where all my mail goes. They said they would mail it to my P O Box, and if it doesn't arrive by May 5th, to call and tell them. Remember, I won this watch on February 8th. You get 180 days to receive prizes; otherwise, you forfeit the prize. February 8th to May 5th is about 90 days, half of 180 days. They are not trying to get the watch to me. They are just giving me the run around. I have copies of all of my conversations with ClubWPT. If there is a lawyer out there that reads this and thinks they can help me, please email me at [protected]@comcast.net . Also, as of yesterday, I signed on to play poker at ClubWPT and in the password section of ClubWPT, my account # to bodog poker, a different poker site, with my email address came up in the ClubWPT login ... I never downloaded or played bodog poker on this computer. As a matter of fact, is bodog even around anymore. wasnt it taken over by bovada poker a few years back, , but I've had this computer less then a year. I then got a hold of ClubWPT (chat) and told them what happened., the bodog's seven digit account number, my email address, and the fact ClubWPT was the only app opened. They told me they weren't interested (which I think is not only rude, but bad business.) On both complaints, the watch I have not received, and the bodog account and email popping up on ClubWPT's login, I have proff that what I say is fact. Everything I say here, I have copies that prove what I say, Even a picture of the account number and email address that was on my computer with ClubWPT's login software. (WHICH DISAPPEARED AS SOON AS I CLICKED THE MOUSE).(also the typing of my account number and email address are not the same size letters, as my computer types. my computer is proff its self, in the right hands. I don't think me or anyone else should have to go though this. I pay ClubWPT to play each month for money and prizes. I expect the game to be fair, and to receive the prizes when you win - WITHOUT A RUN A ROUND. ClubWPT has posted in my account that I have been successfully awarded the watch, which is a bold face lie.. I have not been successfully awarded nothing but a hard time. CAN ANYONE OUT THERE HELP. Thank you for your time.
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it wont pay my winnings
i had won 125 at the club . and they will not pay me i have sent they over 20 emails they just keep give me a runaround . so please beware this site is not right
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same scam every day. I have a thousand of these screenshots that prove it.
I am being charged $74.95 every month on my credit card and I want it to stop!
My name is James Fetzner. The charges are hitting my Caesars Rewards card.
i have tried my ach and three credit cards all valid yet clubwpt does not take any of them is there a solution to this issue?
WPT would not pay out my winnings, over $350.00.
They said I did not withdraw the money in time even though they never disclosed that there was a time frame to withdraw.
I won a package to play at WPT’s QPC that they run in Newcastle, Australia every 3 months of the year. I won this package back in 2021 and there has been no QPC since. This package was valued at $850 and I have been repeatedly lied to about when this would be happening.
I did a trial poker subriscription . When it ran out i cancelled . But they are still taking money out of my account. I have an email from them verifying my subscription has been cancelled . But they are still taking my money out of my credity card account i will go seek an atourney this week
Your site is corrupted for. You allow players to work together with software that creates advantages for them. You allow multiple unverified accounts. You don't hold up your own policies. I monitored play for a month. And proved you can easily start multiple unverified accounts.
We spent a lot of money on this game
Rigged like no other site. Someone should be arrested for fraud and theft! Take your money. But won't pay back until there ready. THIFT FRAUD SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED
Was playing wsop thought that was bad tried so thought I would try wpt they advertise honest game boy they should be sued for false advertising I thought wsop was bad but wpt puts them to shame to bad no one wants to put honest game on net
Shady
After Black Friday in the world of online poker I was happy to find this site advertised on ESPN and other networks that broadcast poker. Its legal and you can win money and prizes for only twenty bucks a month and thats all fine and good. I had heard about certain sites that were "rigged" meaning that beginning players or loyal players would win hands that...
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